Re: You are right


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Posted by David Sherman [24.32.202.83] on Thursday, February 18, 2010 at 17:55:07 :

In Reply to: You are right posted by Jerry in Idaho [64.139.238.43] on Thursday, February 18, 2010 at 16:03:26 :

It sort of sounded like Jon had actually found the info on that site. Otherwise his advice is about like telling someone to "google it" or "read the manual", so I'm wondering exactly where it was. Sometimes it can be hard to navigate those corporate web sites.

I dealt with Paccar some years ago trying to find info on an old Carco winch. Some parts of the brake mechanism had fallen out and gotten lost and I was trying to figure out what I need to make or look for to get it to work. There was a lot of "never heard of it" and "we don't support them any more" until I finally got to someone who actually did have a book and sent me a drawing showing how it was supposed to look, which in turn let me pull the cast parts at a junk yard and make the push rods.

One of the Piggott daughters was a marketeer at a place where I used to work, and now I wish I'd gotten to know her just so I'd have a contact inside Paccar. For those who don't know, the Piggotts are a big, quiet, old-money Seattle family whose patriarchs made their fortune with what was originally Pacific Car and Foundry ("car" as in "railroad car") and all sorts of other heavy iron work, much of it related to logging and sawmills. At some point, the name was shortened to Paccar. Carco winches were their in-house brand, and were pretty much universal on the back of dozers for logging. They absorbed Braden, and I think Tulsa and Garwood got mixed in too. Kenworth was their truck brand, which is probably why Kenworths were always the preferred logging trucks on the coast. I think they also own Peterbilt now, and maybe White. They almost produced portable Minuteman missile launching trucks for Boeing. If I remember right, Pacific Iron and Metal was an offshoot, and they took a wild venture into diversification with Pacific Fabrics in the 1970s when it was quite the fad for all companies to diversify. That was when Boeing built not just the well-known monorail ("people mover") and hydrofoil (a cool boat but a loser business-wise) but also an asphalt paving machine. I remember one of those Boeing paving machines sitting next to the Developmental Center on East Marginal way for years. Knowing Boeing, it was probably made out of titanium. Anyway, a little Seattle history there.

I'm thinking there may still be some folks there who remember and are willing to help, but it's a challenge to find them. I doubt that there are overhaul specs, per se, for that winch, like you'd find for an engine. I think mostly you run it until it's obvious that parts are totally shot and then you replace those parts. It's not like anybody's going to be checking gear backlash or plastigaging the bearings.



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